John Hagelin — Yogi Physicist

Scott Virden Anderson Blog

For our Yoga Science project, the outstanding keynote talk at this year’s ISSSEEM meeting in Boulder was that of physicist John Hagelin.  Readers unfamiliar with him can read a bio at  He left a promising career at the highest level of physics some 25 years ago to work on “novel applications” in the context of the TM organization of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.  Some may remember him as candidate for US President from the Natural Law Party in the 2000 election.

His talk in Boulder was given by video webcast and is available via ISSSEEM’s website, but access costs $125.  I found a very similar presentation given to IONS on 2/18/07 that is available in streaming video for free at  My review here is of this earlier talk.

The 1st half hour gives an overview of his current thinking re physics, levels of mind, global EEG coherence as defining a 4th State of consciousness (along with waking, dreaming, and deep sleep), and the benefits of that state.  (This 4th State is “Turiya” in Yoga.)

The 2nd half hour reviews the data they have on the non-local effects of large numbers of individuals engaging together in this 4th State.  This is an impressive body of research published in the peer-reviewed social science literature.  A meta-analysis of 6 replications of the original research suggests the effect has a p of 10exp-19 on the basis of which Hegelin can claim it is “the best documented finding in the social sciences.”

The final half hour is Q&A from the IONS audience.

Yogi Scientists will find many interesting ideas here:
1.  One slide shows side by side his frequently used Physics chart with the blue band of the Unified Field across the bottom and one titled Consciousness showing the progressive refinement of meditation toward the same blue band.  The former is layered by scale length down to the Planckian singularity at the Unified Field, the latter shows a large V with the same configuration.  This line up is parallel to the SummaTime Scale turned upside down.

2. Another slide illustrates “four levels of thought:” conceptual, abstract, “very fine,” and transcendental.  The first two are “classical” and therefore local, they are given Sanskrit names vaikari and madhyama.  The third is “quantum mechanical” and “long range” – pashanti.  The last is “non-local” para.  Here we have, from the Advaita tradition, at least two levels of Yogic experience aligned with the Quantian to Planckian range of the STS.

3. “Underneath our EM physiology, there is a QM physiology, and underneath that there is a Unified Field physiology.”  @54:00

4. Right at the hour mark, Dr. Hagelin discusses briefly an hypothesis he is currently exploring regarding “hidden sector” mechanics underlying “subtle energies.”  This is the first time I’ve heard about this.  Google of “hidden sector” produces over 100K hits – most appear to be to the physics literature.  He spoke briefly about this in the ISSSEEM talk as well during the Q&A.  It appears to be his current “best guess” as to the physics underlying “subtle energies.”  For the ISSSEEM audience, this would appear to be a key lead to follow up on and I’ll be exploring this further in the future.

Bottom line: Hagelin has what may be the most developed existing theoretical model for the Yoga Science to consider.